Should a sikh bow before a picture of Guru?
Posted July 13th, 2007 by Anonymous
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No
44% (8 votes)
Yes
39% (7 votes)
Can't Say
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None of these
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Sikh should bow before a pic of Guru
Why not?
A SIKH bows before his grandfather grand mother etc. Nobody can easily learn the talent of bowing. Remember you bow only when you acknowledge the teaching and talents of a person you are bowing other wisely it will be called moorty pooja.
100% YES
hi over here were sitting wi th all our family and our answer is yes and all the people that say no are wrong!!!!!!!and if you ask why we will tell you the reason
Sikh Rehat Maryada
Guru Gobind Singh Ji bestow Guru ship to LIVING GURU Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Guru Khalsa Panth in 1608 and ordered sikhs to follow Guru non other than the Guru Granth Sahib ji. Expert Sikhs under Guru Granth Sahib Ji inspiration engrave unique Sikh Rehat Marayada to disembark discipline and united sikhs all over globe but we practice false ritual like lighting candles, agarbattis, photo /Picture puja, Deh Puja etc.
Sikhs all our petty problems/issueless issues will disappear if we surrender to will of Waheguru.
Remember Nitnem is must , Ardaas is for rest, World is only dust if Gurbani is in chest nothing need rest.
More thoughts about Guru
Guru Piaray Jeo
Some more thoughts to directly answer the questions raised about the Guru?
Does SGGS has a body with limbs, hands, feet, eyes etc.?
Yes, it does.The body which sings the glory of Gursabad becomes Guru's
body, eyes which sees the world is His eys, He alone is the
Daykhanhaara.Hands which does seva/service are His hands and feet
which walks to meet with the SatGuru are His feet not haumai loaded
body's eyes or feet. So what enshrines the Gursabad is His Deh.
We may have to come out of haumai to experience His Body His Feet His
Looks through His Eyes.
Now who made my haumai loaded body Guru's body: the answer is Gursabad
Where is Gur Sabad: Enshrines, illuminates in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jeo
What kind of respect a haumai loaded body can give this powerful
GurSabad as enshrined in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jeo
Jithay jaa aye bahey Mera Satguru So thaan Sohava.
Are we giving this respect to His Body?
Do we worship shabad or the body ?
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We do and need both.Without Body we cant connect with Him. (Is dehee
Ko simray Dev....) He is the body, He is the eyes, He is the Doer, He
is the creation HE is the creator.... only when His seva and simran is
done otherwise it is a haumai loaded body. How come His creation (that
is the illusion) tries to define Him, that is a dream( supana of being
a powerful
king or a begger) of haumai loaded body.
We worship by: Har Japay har Mandir Sajaya
Granth Sahib was written with all words joined together. Now words are
> separated.
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It is a bit similar to a nursery kid being given a toy to play. He
plays for a while then breaks it into pieces and cries and tries to
hear the melody from the broken pieces.
Please read this below written and experience that it requires
devotion,
patience,
concentration,
surat to connect
when we read following.
Many of us may simply not try reading this even.
Experiencethejurvayakharofgurusarooponemaybeamazedtofindhowfastbodyconnectswitht\
hesabadguru
Itisgoongaykimethayayeintellectmaynotcomprehendthat
Have we separated the limbs ?
It seems we have done worst than that. As creation (with illusion) of
the creator we have replaced our Guru as Jugo Jug Atal with what we
have started accepting, spreading the message for, discussing and
relegating the sabadguru as a scripture, as a book, as a print. we are
in race with other religions to tell we have a scripture too. Without
realizing that the SabadGuru as blessed to Guru's Sikhs remains the
rear treasure of Gurmat which the entire mankind has as the Creator
Himself Manifested as an Ansh, As an Ank, as a Rom, as a path to tread
for His creation.
Sangat may please pardon mistakes in Gurbani Understanding, usage,
typing etc.guide, help improving these evolving thoughts and bless (
Bhul chuk de Mafi)
With Prayers Abound
Charan Singh
Toronto, CA
SABH SIKHAN KO HUKAM HAI
SABH SIKHAN KO HUKAM HAI GURU MANYO GRANTH
SO BETTER TO BOW BEFORE GURU GRANTH SAHIB
yes a sikh should bow his
yes a sikh should bow his head before a GURURS picture ,otherwise he has no right to claim or say he is a
sikh.
BOWING TO PICTURES
Dear Sitender kaur Ji,
If we read Guru nanak ji on Panna 525 we realise that Guru nank Ji calls those who "Bow to pictures, moortees, statues..as MOORAKH MUGADH GAWAAR. These are very very HARSH words and Guur ji doesnt hesitate to use them to put His Divine Message across..A Moorakh is a Stupid person...a Mugadh is even more stupid..the Gawaar has a Masters or PHD in stupidity....That is what a person becomes who bows to a picture of Guru nanak.in Guru nanak jis OWN WORDS !!. Some other Bhagat bani in SGGS is even MORE HARSH on picture worshippers and moortee pujarees....
Jarnail Singh
Pictures of Sikh Gurus ??
Guru of Sikhs is SHABAD GURU..not pictures, idols, statues, etc.
Ritualised BOWING is of no use..Shabad Guru demands FOLLOWING the Divine TEACHINGS incorporated into our DAILY LIFE.
Bowing to SGGS is not just "bowing" ones head and getting up....Real BOWING is placing our own MANMATT at guru jis feet and taking heed of GURU MATT
"Darshan" of Shabad Guru is NOT lifting up the Rumallas of SGGS and LOOKING at Guru Ji !! Darshan of SHABAD is FOLLOWING PRACTICALLY the teachings that are in the SGGS.
WHAT can IMAGINARY pictures TEACH US ?? NOTHING..ZILCH. PERIOD.
Has anybody kept his hair long.beard long and worn a dastaar....because he saw Guru nanak's picture ??
Has anyone started to ride a horse, and keep a falcon..because he saw a picture of Guru gobind Singh Ji...
Has anyone started practising sitting on a Hot Plate because he saw a picture of Guru arjun ji.
Mullions..began to keep long hair and wear dastaars because Guru ji TOLD them so...
Bhai Taru Singh preferred to have his scalp removed but NOT his Hair..
Now a days millions "bow" to pictures..and then go straight to the barber ( after a drink at the local pub ).
Jarnail Singh
Sikh Guru is Shabad Guru
Very well said.
Yes , Guru of Sikhs is SHABAD GURU and Bowing to SGGS placing our own MANMATT at guru jis feet and taking heed of GURU MATT.
So the only question i have, how do we stop this practice(bowing in front of pics)? or do we make sure we connect with the SGGS and not to pictures?
M.S.Vohra
bowing to pictures
So the only question i have, how do we stop this practice(bowing in front of pics)? or do we make sure we connect with the SGGS and not to pictures?
M.S.Vohra
The answer is simple. Gursikhi si by EXAMPLE. Clear out your own home of any suhc manmade artists impressions of Guru ji. Connect to Guru ji through the Guru Granth Ji.
WEAK minds need such "pictures" to visualise !! connect !! etc etc.a SIKH of the Guru is not WEAK.
Others gave them pictures, nmurtees..because they are weak..like in kindergarten...they kept the vedas and the puransa for the "Elite"..the Brahmins...too difficult for ordinary men....just let us do the reading..we will tell you...
OUR Guru ji gave us the huge 1430 page GRANTH SAHIB JI as our text book..FOR US..not any brahminised granthi or baba to read and tell us later..Guru Ji made Each SIKH EMPOWERED as able to READ..understand..and make use of the Gurbani to mould his life. For a SIKH to go back to a picture/mirtee/statue is like a University student hankering to get a Kindergarten KIDDY BOOK with lots of pictures and colours...to "read"....how funny is that ?? Guur Ji hands you a huge textbook of uni standard..you say..no..too difficult for me..i rather look at A for Apple kiddy stuff and enjoy the picture of a rosy apple !! enough for me. Guru Ji hands you a book of LIFE...that can give you the real taste of an apple..and MUCH MUCH MORE......you prefer to just look at a picture that is tasteless..no feeling..no texture..NOTHING !!! NO SIR..not for me all this kiddy stuff.... I WANT to connect to my GURU for REAL !! Its BEYOND DESCRIPTION....
Jarnail Singh
Bowing Head
Last year, i went to India(Chandigarh) during Karwa chuth(women do fasting for their husbands).Even in my in laws family women did this fast .They told me to that fast.I said i didn't believe that if i want my husband long life i want to do Japji Sahib instead of that. Then they also bowed their head in front of Devi's murti.So i asked one another sikh women why you people always bow your head in front of every Hindu God Murti? She said proudly(as donot want to listen) i am not a person to disrespect other Gods.Like we bow our heads in front of Guru Nank Dev ji.I said i bow my head in front of Guru Nanak ji as a symbol of a great saint not because he is God as God is only Waheguru who has no shape and the waherguru never dies.These people donot want to listen the truth what the Gurbani said about Shri Krishana,Shiv etc Hindu so called God.I told them if they are God then why did they die as everbody knows God will never die.
Some times i feel it is very difficult to tell people even Sikh about the right path of Sikhism.And i don't want to hurt any body's feelings as they feel bad even its about their right path .Because they don't want to understand then what can i do as they feel that i am disrespecting them.
Bowing to pictures
Some one commented that giving a child a Statue of Guru nanak is like giving a child a toy elephant. He meant..first give a toy elephant..and then take him to the Zoo and show him a real elephant...the toy will help him "know" the real one. But then the qualifying part is TAKING HIM TO THE ZOO.
In Guur nanak jis case "taking him to the Zoo" would mean taking him to the SGGS..teaching him to read Gurbani..understand the Meanings...and FOLLOW the Gurbani in life... How many of us who buy the Guru Picture to hang on the wall or buy the statue to put on the car dash..take the trouble to "go to the ZOO" ?? Sdaly...very very few...maybe 0.0001%.....so 99.99% make do with the TOY ELEPHANT and never see a real one in the ZOO..or even better one in the WILD !!!
Why play "games"....why not tell the TRUTH to your self....I am NOT going to be satisfied with a TOY elephant..I want to Meet a REAL elephant face to face...what can a Guru Picture do ?? NOTHING. A Guru in a picture is as real as an elephant in the childs book....
2. Secondly we SIKHS are not apologists..we need not fear to be afraid to tell others the FACTS. When Guru nanak ji reached the KUMBH MELA at Kurkshetar....He was in the Company of MILLIONS who were throwing Ganga water to the SUN. Guur Ji Stood in the water//and threw water to the OPPOSITE DIRECTION...towards the WEST. And when they questioned Him....He was brave enough to stand up a nd be counted. Guur Ji told them...IF your water drops can reach the SUN..millions of miles away in space..Why cant my water drops reach my FIELDS in PUNJAB just a few hundred miles away on thsi Earth ?? None of the Millions had any answer ??
DONT be AFRAID to practise SIKHI as in GURBANI of SGGS....no one can defeat you in any argument.